March 21, 2025

Behind the Barn Finds: Randy Carlson’s Craziest VW Discoveries Ep8

Behind the Barn Finds: Randy Carlson’s Craziest VW Discoveries Ep8
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Behind the Barn Finds: Randy Carlson’s Craziest VW Discoveries Ep8

Step into the world of Volkswagen enthusiasts with host Joe Person in this engaging episode of DubLife Diaries. Join us as we delve into the stories and passions of the VW community, featuring the legendary Randy Carlson. Known for his work at OldBug.com and his YouTube channel, Carcheology, Randy is celebrated for his knack for uncovering rare and unique Volkswagen vehicles, turning each discovery into a captivating tale.

Explore how Randy's journey into the VW scene began in the 80s, share in the humor and nostalgia of his adventures, and hear about some truly exceptional finds. From uncovering a VW used by the Vanderbilt family to detailing the unique charm of Volkswagen cars through the decades, this episode is a heartfelt tribute to the culture and love surrounding these classic cars.

Whether you’re a seasoned VW aficionado or just love a good story, this episode is packed with laughter, history, and inspiration. Listen in to discover why these cars continue to capture the hearts of people worldwide.

you can find Randy Carlson here: 

carchaeology.com

www.youtube.com/@Carchaeology

www.oldbug.com

 

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Chapters

00:14 - Introduction to Dub Life Diaries

02:09 - Meet Randy Carlson

04:52 - The Early VW Memories

06:00 - Websites and Their Origins

09:17 - The Birth of Carkeology

10:40 - Unearthing Rare Volkswagens

18:13 - The One That Got Away

20:22 - Hidden Gems Still Out There

22:51 - VW’s Historical Mystique

26:56 - The Importance of Preserving History

30:00 - The Future of VW Collecting

35:10 - The Debate on Electric Conversions

38:20 - Supporting the VW Community

39:05 - Quick Reaction Questions

42:31 - The Best VW Show Experience

43:42 - Favorite VW of All Time

45:49 - Upcoming Projects

47:00 - Final Words of Wisdom

52:24 - A Glimpse into Jay Leno

52:52 - Closing Thoughts on Dub Life Diaries

Transcript
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Music.

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Dub Life Diaries, the podcast where passion meets the open road.

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I'm Joe Person, your host, and also a lifelong dubber.

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Buckle up, because this ride is just beginning.

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This podcast is sponsored by Volksmania Magazine. Good times,

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great cars, awesome Volksmaniacs.

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Visit volksmania.com to learn more about this class-leading VW magazine.

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All right, ladies and gentlemen, Volkswagen fanatics, air-cooled addicts,

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and lovers of all things classic, welcome back to another episode of Dub Life

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Diaries, where we dive deep into the stories behind the people shaping the Volkswagen world.

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Today, I've got an absolute legend in the house. I'm so excited for this one.

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If you've ever fallen down the rabbit hole of rare, of weird,

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of one-of-a-kind Volkswagens, If you've ever searched for that dream car,

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that impossible find, you'll probably know the name Randy Carlson.

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Randy's the supermind behind OldBug.com, the ultimate online hub for classic VW enthusiasts.

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He also has a very successful YouTube page called Carkeology,

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about 15,000 subscribers or so.

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This man doesn't just find rare Volkswagens, he uncovers history.

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He's an appraiser. He's an automotive TV show host.

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His accolades and magazine features just continue to grow and grow.

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You've seen him on And hold your breath Because this is a whole bunch Discovery

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Channel Sticker Shock Jay Leno's Garage Barn Find Hunter The Bug Movie He's

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also played parts in Lords of the Car Hordes Rusted Development Monster Garage

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Herbie Fully Loaded Man,

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I could probably continue to go on But I'll stop here Here's the thing though

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Randy isn't just a collector He's a master storyteller Every car has a pass

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And he's the guy who digs it up Dusts it off And brings it back to life And today,

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we're going to dive headfirst into some of these stories,

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some you've heard, hopefully some that'll blow your mind.

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So grab your favorite cold boy. Let's hit the road.

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Randy Carlson, welcome to the show.

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Hey, thanks so much for having me. That's a hell of an intro.

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Yeah, man. Hey. Doesn't seem real, but I guess I've done some stuff.

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Yeah, that's so awesome, man. So look, I want to, I'm very respectful of your

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time. I want to jump right into it. So I got to ask you right up front,

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what got you into Volkswagens?

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Well, VWs were cheap and easy, you know,

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in, in the eighties, I graduated high school in 84 and in our group of my group

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of buddies and stuff, the first guy to get his license was my friend, Nick, who had a bug.

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So I kind of drove around in that with him and, you know, high school auto shop,

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guys were building VWs and, and it just seemed like an easy thing to get started with.

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And and it and i did and it

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just never freaking stopped what what was like maybe your

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first real vw memory oh gosh

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first vw memory that's maybe maybe a

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little tough i i mean certainly riding around

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in my friend nick's 68 auto stick bug

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hey cool there were some we had

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some really wacky times with that and you

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know thrashed that car horribly and and you

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know painted it in his driveway and fixed it

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up did crazy stuff to it but you know that was maybe

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kind of the first vw memory my my dad

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was a car guy so i grew up around a whole bunch of

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different collector cars and things but he didn't.

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Have a vw but he did have a 356 porsche

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which was that he had traded a vw in on

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before i was born but i don't

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know it was just they were cheap and easy and everywhere and

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there was obviously a scene going

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on and and it was a fun thing to get into and be

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a part of yeah so obviously today right

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the scene is is nuts it you know it's it's much

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larger but when you first got into it back then was it you know

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was it a different vibe than it is today well everything

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was a different vibe in the 80s certainly you know it was

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all day glow and big hair and and you

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know kind of a different thing i mean the cow look scene and

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the bright colors of what was happening then you

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know is a bit different than now and you see a

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resurgence in that look too which is

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kind of cool yeah but you know it it was as exciting then as it is now i maybe

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even and a little more so just because I was young and getting into the whole

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scene and everything was new and everything was super rad. And it was just fun.

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Yeah. So I, I just got to share with you because you said the word auto stick,

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that was my first beetle.

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I had a 72 standard beetle and it was an auto clutch auto stick.

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And, uh, back then 96, it was tough to find parts for, you know,

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that little vacuum solenoid deal.

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And, and I ended up putting a four speed in it way back then.

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Not me. I had to pay somebody to do it, but did just a cool memory because that

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was my first, first, first core memory of, of Volkswagens for me was,

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learning how to drive that thing and pushing it down the road and always thinking to myself,

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man, this thing actually does a lot better than I ever thought it would.

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I think that's VWs in general. They do do things that other cars don't do.

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I had other friends that had big lifted Chevy trucks and things like that.

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They'd go out and get caught in the mud and then Nick would show up with his

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bug and drive circles around him.

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It was I don't know. They're just, they're really, really approachable and really fun little creatures.

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And the more you get to know them, the more you kind of get hooked.

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Yeah, I totally agree with you. So let's cover a couple of the websites.

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You've got oldbug.com, carcheology.com and californiacar.com.

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What's the spark behind these websites?

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Oh gosh let's see the the quick

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story of old bug kind of goes back

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to late 90s so when volkswagen

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introduced the new beetle and brought that out into the world i started up a

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company selling accessories and hop-up parts and stuff for those cars and so

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i was looking for a domain name for that and I found newbug.com and then always being an old VW guy,

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just kind of search oldbug.com and it was available.

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And so I bought the domain and I just put up a picture of a split window bug that I had at the time.

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And that was it. And I just thought it was kind of funny if somebody went to

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oldbug.com, there's a picture of an old bug, you know.

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And then I had an oval window bug that I wanted to sell.

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And I thought, you know what, I'm going to post up some pictures of it on old

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bug and just see what happens, you know.

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So I made a little ad for this project, oval window, and posted it up.

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And like a week later, I get a phone call and somebody bought it.

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I went, hmm this is kind of interesting so then

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i started hitting up friends and i'm like you know

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if somebody had something for sale i thought i'd you know throw it

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up there give it a try and it just kind

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of built from there so it became a good platform to to market my own stuff as

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well as everybody else's and you know i've been running that site since 99 now

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so that's a long time i I love the press page on, on that site.

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I think at one point when I looked at it, I thought I saw a hall of fame or

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something somewhere in my thoughts, but that's basically what it is because,

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you know, it's buried down there at the bottom, but once you uncover it,

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it's like, oh, that's who Randy is. Okay.

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I mean, it's so weird. I started putting that together because I,

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I was having a hard time keeping track of everything.

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And it's like, you know, I'll build something and it'll get in a magazine and

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that's cool. And then the magazine goes into the stack.

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But I, you know, I don't know. I just, I started putting it all together in that page.

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And when I did that and started adding it on, it kind of scared me.

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It was like, holy crap, I've done a lot of stuff.

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I'm always looking forward, not necessarily looking back.

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But to do that and lay that all out there and kind of see where I've been and

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what I've done, And it's, I mean, it almost like doesn't seem real.

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It's like, how did that much time go by and, and how did that happen?

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But, but it's been such a fun run. I mean, I've had a blast.

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Every single one of these cars

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has been a great adventure and the people that I met along the way and,

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You know, that's the whole reason I'm doing this, this podcast is because of

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what that last statement you made, the people along the way,

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you know, that's what I feel like needs to be celebrated inside of this Volkswagen

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community because there is, there's, there's, there's awesome folks out there

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that, that have great stories to tell.

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So what's the background behind carkeology?

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Archaeology i don't know i i love cars right

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and i love the history of cars and i love to

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dig old dusty things out of barns and

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stuff i when i i look at one point i kind of looked at my life and i went okay

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what is it that i do that just really turns me on and and it's that it's seeing

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this this bit of history on wheels that's sitting in a garage somewhere that

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really needs to be out in the world.

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And so I started sharing those stories and pulling these things out.

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And a friend of mine used the term carcheology. It's like you're digging up

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this history and bringing it out.

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And it's like, you know what, that's solid. Can I use that? And he's like, oh yeah.

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So I did the trademark on the name and just kind of started pushing that out

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there, not really knowing where it was going to go.

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I still don't even know where it's going to go, But it really kind of encapsulates

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and describes what I love to do.

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You know, I love to find the car. I love to study it, learn the history,

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the people that are behind it and have been involved with it,

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and then share that story with the world.

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And, you know, much like archaeology digging artifacts out of the dirt,

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it's the same thing. It's just these artifacts, you know, four wheels.

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Yeah. So let's talk about that real quick. Let's dive in. what's like the rarest

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maybe Volkswagen that you've ever unearthed or discovered?

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Where was it hiding? How'd you even manage to get your hands on it?

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Oh gosh. I mean, there's been, been a lot, but the, the stuff that,

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that I've always really been into is, is the freakiest stuff.

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You know, for many years, I sponsored this freak show display at the VW classic events and things.

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And, and I, I found that you can get more attention with something that was

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really wacky, even if it was a pile

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of trap than you can with doing a real traditional build on something.

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So I've always focused on that weird stuff. And as a result,

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when people see weird VWs, they often contact me and say, hey,

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check this out. Would you be interested in that?

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So it's been kind of a cool thing. So like recently in the past couple of years, I had a,

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call from a guy back in Chicago area and he had a Volkswagen single cab that

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had been turned into a fire truck.

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For use at an amusement park and this

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guy actually ended up he had went to look at it

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it was for sale he couldn't quite make the

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deal he contacted me because he knew i was

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into crazy vw's and then turns out

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i ended up buying two of them a match pair

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from this guy this collector in in chicago

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and brought them out to california and

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one of them i sold to a buddy mine robert skinner

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from skinner classics yeah is just

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a great vw nut and a big helper of

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the whole vw scene so he was

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a perfect home for one of them and i took the other and when

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he we went out together to pick the things up

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and bring them back and it was just a great adventure

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we did a really nice photo shoot for the magazines and stuff

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with it and and these things were just totally

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totally insane time capsule all original trucks

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that were just weird as hell but

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just super super fun it's like the ultimate

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dream find really you know well and the crazy part it's not like i was looking

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for that it was just a random you know email hey i know you're into crazy stuff

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would you be interested and and that's been really really wacky in recent years

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it's like now that i've been doing this long enough,

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and I've been out there enough that people know where to find me,

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it's almost like I don't even need to hunt.

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The stuff just kind of hits me. You know, people always ask me,

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how do you find this stuff? I said, well, somebody told me about it.

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They tip you off. Yeah, definitely. I mean, some stuff, though,

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I've come across some really interesting cars that you just see something,

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you get a little vibe that it might be something special, and then you go with it.

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There was a Beetle that I found for sale on the Samba website that was...

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It was a 66 Beetle sedan, nothing real special at first look,

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but it had a little bronze plate that was behind the spare tire there that said Emden 100,000.

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And I went, hmm, what's up with that? So I started doing a little research.

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Emden was the secondary plant that Volkswagen put together in Germany to keep

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up with Beetle production for the US.

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And after contacting the people at

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volkswagen i get this picture of this car

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coming off the assembly line at the emden

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plant with the whole workers all around it

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a big bouquet of flowers on the hood and i'm

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like whoa wait a second so that

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car ended up being a real special find even though at first

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glance it was just a faded old bug but it

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ended up being a very very special one that ended up

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going back to emden's 50th anniversary

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event which was really cool too so and and now it's back here in the u.s and

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a collection in the pacific northwest i think but amazing what a cool story

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tell me about the craziest barn find whether it be volkswagen or not like one

00:14:51.745 --> 00:14:53.645
that just absolutely blew your mind.

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Gosh, I mean, there's been a couple of really, really insane ones.

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Probably the coolest one from a personal experience point of view was some years

00:15:07.319 --> 00:15:12.499
ago, I had a Tempo Matador truck for sale on oldbug.com.

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And the Tempo Matador, the first ones of those used Volkswagen Power.

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And then eventually, Volkswagen kind of cut off Tempo from selling them engines

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because they had come out with their own truck.

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And they didn't want the competition anyway sure

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there's not a whole lot of these tempo matador trucks

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out there but i received a

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call from somebody that was back east and they said they have a tempo matador

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but it's a camper and you know would i be interested in it and i said of course

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i'd be interested so as the story went on and the guy started to reveal more

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about it This thing ended up being a coach-built, one-off,

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total high-end, crazy, bespoke camper that was built for members of the Vanderbilt

00:16:01.159 --> 00:16:05.099
family on the East Coast so that they could tour Europe.

00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:09.599
So it ended up just being this really insane thing.

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I said, yeah, I'm absolutely interested in it.

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I threw everything I had at it. I said, I'll offer you this much for it because it's all I had.

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And they said, okay. And I ended up going back to Newport, Rhode Island,

00:16:26.599 --> 00:16:29.239
where the Breakers Mansion is.

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There, it's that side of the Vanderbilt family there.

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They had this camper stored in their country house, which was in Pound Ridge,

00:16:39.419 --> 00:16:42.179
New York, in a custom garage that was built for it.

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And then a friend of mine, Volkswagen dealer back in Connecticut there,

00:16:46.179 --> 00:16:50.039
Gene Langan, helped me get it out of there, get it back to his shop.

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So we get it up on wheels to roll it out.

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Get it shipped out here to california and i

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mean it was a really really special vehicle but

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the most interesting thing to me was how it

00:17:02.676 --> 00:17:05.896
opened up this whole story of the history of the vanderbilt family

00:17:05.896 --> 00:17:08.936
for me and it gave me an opportunity to

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you know meet members of the family and you know

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take tours of properties and stuff there by

00:17:15.456 --> 00:17:18.416
the family themselves you know there's

00:17:18.416 --> 00:17:21.196
people can tour the breakers mansion there in

00:17:21.196 --> 00:17:24.196
newport it's a big tourist destination but

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the top floor of the property there

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is reserved just purely for the family well you

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know i'm there with with the family member

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that's got the key and so i got to see things there that

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people don't normally see and go through the

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the stables there at the breakers where they

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have the vanderbilt family coaches and

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things there and there was another barn find car

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an old cadillac that was sitting in a part of that building

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that nobody ever sees that you know i just

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it was these sort of pinch me moments where you're like how on earth did i end

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up here basically picking at the vanderbilt's garage and and all of that and

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it was just i don't know to me that was probably the most special find it certainly

00:18:10.956 --> 00:18:13.196
wasn't the most valuable but it was.

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It was the craziest one for me just because of the people and the stories behind

00:18:18.276 --> 00:18:24.576
that whole family and how they came to wealth and power and so awesome it was

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way cool really super cool yeah that was way cool to hear that do you have a

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VW that you ever you know scored throughout your

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career that that you feel like might be the one that got away now maybe even regret selling it,

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oh I'm gonna follow I'm in love with all of them because they're all a real, a real band.

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But, you know, I realized early on,

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you know, I'm raising a family, I'm trying to run a business,

00:18:51.314 --> 00:18:56.834
I'm trying to survive doing this, that I can't really keep everything, you know, I'm not,

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I, you know, I build something up, I give it my love and attention,

00:19:02.354 --> 00:19:05.954
and then it's got to go to pay the bills that I ran up building it,

00:19:06.174 --> 00:19:09.394
and hopefully keep the wheels going into the next one.

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But there was one car that I had that I kept for a fair bit of time,

00:19:15.974 --> 00:19:20.394
and it really kind of became mine, and it was a car called the Rosenstiel Roadster.

00:19:21.254 --> 00:19:27.194
And a guy in Arizona, Dave Rosenstiel, he's a postal worker that just loves

00:19:27.194 --> 00:19:34.234
to bang metal in his home garage, had made this kind of Hefmuller-style car, the Roadster.

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And i bought it from him and i finished

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it off and and really kind of made it my own got

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it into some of the magazines and things and and i

00:19:43.354 --> 00:19:47.954
just absolutely loved that car i love the way it drove it was so unique you

00:19:47.954 --> 00:19:52.174
could show to show up at any event people knew the car they knew it was my car

00:19:52.174 --> 00:19:58.634
and it just it fit me better than any other vw i've ever had but it had to go

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because you know Times got tough.

00:20:01.034 --> 00:20:03.254
It was like 2008, recession's happening.

00:20:03.614 --> 00:20:05.894
Oh, yeah. I've got kids to feed, a mortgage to pay.

00:20:06.614 --> 00:20:08.934
Well, what do I have around here I can sell?

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I'm not good looking enough to stand on a street corner and make an end.

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So off the Rosensteel went.

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But if I could buy that car back, I would do it. I would love to have that one back.

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Do you still think there's some hidden gems out there? Or do you think we've

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pretty much unearthed them all? I know it's a big hobby now.

00:20:29.894 --> 00:20:34.094
Well, I, there's always something new out there and there's,

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you know, like there's, there's somebody today that's parking a car in the back

00:20:39.194 --> 00:20:42.834
of their garage that is not going to move for 40 years.

00:20:43.274 --> 00:20:48.834
So, you know, time gets away from us, projects, dreams sometimes don't happen.

00:20:49.274 --> 00:20:54.834
And I, it's human nature to squirrel that stuff away and keep it,

00:20:54.974 --> 00:20:58.274
you know, for a rainy day or, or to have that someday dream,

00:20:58.274 --> 00:20:59.514
I'm going to build this car.

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So I think the supply of things to find in barns and special treasures is never ending.

00:21:06.494 --> 00:21:10.874
I mean, there's always something out there to find. Good. That gives us hope.

00:21:12.134 --> 00:21:15.574
Definitely. That gives us hope. No, I know when I go, somebody's going to come

00:21:15.574 --> 00:21:18.034
to my garage and go, holy shit, look at all this stuff.

00:21:19.194 --> 00:21:24.534
That's absolutely awesome. Ever stumbled across any type of VW prototypes or

00:21:24.534 --> 00:21:29.414
anything that was never really even released or anything crazy like that?

00:21:29.894 --> 00:21:35.994
Not necessarily. I mean, I've seen some interesting cars like that in my travels

00:21:35.994 --> 00:21:39.474
and stuff, but nothing that I've really discovered.

00:21:40.354 --> 00:21:41.574
There was one.

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One car, probably the closest thing, was this car that was built by an automotive

00:21:48.341 --> 00:21:51.961
trade school in Germany that was based on a Volkswagen.

00:21:52.361 --> 00:21:57.761
And this was every year that this group in Kaiserslautern, Germany,

00:21:57.861 --> 00:22:02.381
I always threw that name up, they would do a class project where they would

00:22:02.381 --> 00:22:05.761
design and build a car as the class project.

00:22:05.761 --> 00:22:09.441
And it would teach these kids automotive design, it would teach them the business

00:22:09.441 --> 00:22:13.961
practices of building a car, all the skills of building and metal shaping,

00:22:14.341 --> 00:22:18.921
the mechanical parts of it, electrical, interior, all of that, they would build a car.

00:22:19.401 --> 00:22:24.241
And a handful of those were built on Volkswagen platforms because that was easy to work with.

00:22:24.541 --> 00:22:29.641
And I did come across one of those cars that was down in San Diego here that

00:22:29.641 --> 00:22:33.661
I ended up buying and then bringing back out to show folks. And,

00:22:33.661 --> 00:22:35.921
and that was, that was a really special car.

00:22:36.461 --> 00:22:40.621
Nice. It sounds like it. So, you know, these cars have deep history.

00:22:40.641 --> 00:22:43.981
They're obviously connected. We're, you know, touching on Germany.

00:22:44.161 --> 00:22:48.741
Now they're connected to the, to the war. There's a lot of crazy myths and things

00:22:48.741 --> 00:22:51.401
that, you know, have, have been developed over time.

00:22:51.461 --> 00:22:58.021
Any wild conspiracy theories or anything that, that you have learned or play into in the VW world?

00:22:58.821 --> 00:23:02.401
Gosh, I don't know about conspiracy theories or anything like that.

00:23:02.401 --> 00:23:09.261
Obviously, the whole World War II era Nazi connection to those real early cars

00:23:09.261 --> 00:23:15.621
has a mystique to it, and some of it a little uncomfortable for some.

00:23:16.181 --> 00:23:20.301
And I had a friend once that had found a...

00:23:20.953 --> 00:23:23.893
Found a really early beetle war or two era beetle

00:23:23.893 --> 00:23:27.213
that you know he was trying to track the history on

00:23:27.213 --> 00:23:30.453
and and eventually he got the info from germany that

00:23:30.453 --> 00:23:34.293
it was a car that had been delivered to herman goering's

00:23:34.293 --> 00:23:37.553
field offices and goering was basically hitler's right-hand

00:23:37.553 --> 00:23:40.113
man and you know

00:23:40.113 --> 00:23:42.953
was the butcher of prague they called him and i

00:23:42.953 --> 00:23:46.753
mean he was a badass dude or actually was

00:23:46.753 --> 00:23:49.773
that i might be confusing it but you know

00:23:49.773 --> 00:23:52.673
that car had like a bit of evil

00:23:52.673 --> 00:23:56.313
vibe to it because of that connection and

00:23:56.313 --> 00:23:59.213
you know he was i mean not really but yeah

00:23:59.213 --> 00:24:02.033
that that's kind of what i was hunting for though something like

00:24:02.033 --> 00:24:05.153
that so there's a vibe like that well and and

00:24:05.153 --> 00:24:07.953
that's kind of the way it is i mean obviously there was

00:24:07.953 --> 00:24:11.033
a horrible time in in world history and

00:24:11.033 --> 00:24:14.453
a lot of a lot of nasty crap happened there

00:24:14.453 --> 00:24:17.393
and none of that is the result of these

00:24:17.393 --> 00:24:20.373
cars these cars just happened to be there when all of that was happening

00:24:20.373 --> 00:24:23.233
um but you know

00:24:23.233 --> 00:24:26.293
and and from that era and from all of that you

00:24:26.293 --> 00:24:31.453
know spawned the beetle that we love today and and all of that so i think it's

00:24:31.453 --> 00:24:37.153
an important part of history but i a car can be in a place or be in the hands

00:24:37.153 --> 00:24:45.313
of somebody that did some evil stuff and And it's kind of hard to extract that from it.

00:24:45.453 --> 00:24:51.473
You can't, you know, if you've got, what was it, Ted Bundy had a beetle or something.

00:24:51.733 --> 00:24:55.533
And, you know, it's like, would you want to have Ted Bundy's beetle?

00:24:55.673 --> 00:24:58.173
Probably not. But maybe somebody out there would.

00:24:58.773 --> 00:25:01.433
Yeah, that'd be kind of dark.

00:25:02.773 --> 00:25:08.273
Well, that's it. I mean, I think there's darkness out there in humanity.

00:25:08.273 --> 00:25:12.353
And sometimes these cars are in the room when that stuff happens.

00:25:12.753 --> 00:25:18.673
And, and I, I can see how people will turn away from that because they don't

00:25:18.673 --> 00:25:21.673
want to have a reminder of, of, of a bad time.

00:25:22.853 --> 00:25:26.873
Yeah, I think I can, I can understand and even, even relate to it.

00:25:27.013 --> 00:25:31.753
So in your eyes, why is preserving VW history so important?

00:25:32.873 --> 00:25:36.413
Well, I think preserving history of everything is important.

00:25:37.693 --> 00:25:42.533
I think that there's soul in the past.

00:25:42.933 --> 00:25:50.393
I love these cars an awful lot, but more so I love the history of the cars.

00:25:52.933 --> 00:25:56.113
It doesn't have to be some crazy history.

00:25:56.373 --> 00:25:59.533
It could just be some general owner that bought this thing and kept it,

00:25:59.773 --> 00:26:02.073
and drove it all over the place.

00:26:02.873 --> 00:26:08.453
I just, I love to celebrate that human connection to these cars and see that

00:26:08.453 --> 00:26:10.813
that story goes along with each car.

00:26:11.073 --> 00:26:15.973
So that's the way that I kind of try to preserve the history of these cars.

00:26:16.233 --> 00:26:20.193
I mean, obviously preserving the cars themselves so that they can continue to

00:26:20.193 --> 00:26:24.053
run for a long time, I think is far better than throwing them out,

00:26:24.513 --> 00:26:28.313
doing restorations and things like that. Number one, it's fun to do.

00:26:29.253 --> 00:26:33.553
There's not a whole lot in our world that we can make better with our own two

00:26:33.553 --> 00:26:38.233
hands, but we can do that with an old bug or any old thing,

00:26:39.293 --> 00:26:45.833
I don't know I think it's fun more than anything else it's fun,

00:26:45.953 --> 00:26:52.873
it could be a decent investment it can allow you an avenue to meet a lot of

00:26:52.873 --> 00:26:55.273
really fun people in the VW scene so.

00:26:56.873 --> 00:26:58.153
Why is it important?

00:26:58.313 --> 00:27:02.913
Well, you got to do something and that's, and this is pretty fun to do.

00:27:03.613 --> 00:27:06.573
So you, in the beginning of it all, you mentioned, you know,

00:27:06.633 --> 00:27:10.053
one of the reasons you got into it was because they were cheap and naturally

00:27:10.053 --> 00:27:13.813
that's, you know, a reason for any of us to, but over the years,

00:27:14.113 --> 00:27:20.333
the, the market has completely gone berserk, especially even maybe a year or two post COVID even now.

00:27:20.453 --> 00:27:23.233
I mean, they're the prices on some of these cars are just so,

00:27:23.373 --> 00:27:27.653
I mean, do you think we're in a bubble or is this just the evolution of collecting?

00:27:28.381 --> 00:27:31.341
Well, it's the evolution of collecting, really.

00:27:31.621 --> 00:27:37.561
You know, I think that there's a generational wave of collectible items where

00:27:37.561 --> 00:27:41.501
people that, you know, experience them as when they were young,

00:27:41.781 --> 00:27:45.081
you know, now get to a point where they've got the money to spend.

00:27:45.261 --> 00:27:48.021
They want to have their high school car back. They want to, you know.

00:27:48.881 --> 00:27:54.581
Just kind of relive those memories. And that nostalgia fuels a rise in value.

00:27:54.901 --> 00:27:59.261
It certainly fuels demand and the whole supply and demand curve comes into play.

00:27:59.521 --> 00:28:04.181
So, you know, I look at the cars that my father was into. He really loved like

00:28:04.181 --> 00:28:06.961
30s and 40s era American classics.

00:28:07.681 --> 00:28:13.621
And those cars don't have the following now that they did when he was alive.

00:28:13.621 --> 00:28:16.501
So i can see in the future

00:28:16.501 --> 00:28:20.021
where vw values drop as

00:28:20.021 --> 00:28:22.861
a result of that just because there's not as

00:28:22.861 --> 00:28:27.421
many people that are are into them but but

00:28:27.421 --> 00:28:30.341
the vw and unfortunately the

00:28:30.341 --> 00:28:33.641
vw has such a following to it and there's such a community about

00:28:33.641 --> 00:28:36.621
it and and such a scene that's gone on

00:28:36.621 --> 00:28:39.961
for a long period of time i think it'll have much more

00:28:39.961 --> 00:28:43.021
staying power than you know something that

00:28:43.021 --> 00:28:46.521
was an off brand or something that's that

00:28:46.521 --> 00:28:49.341
doesn't have that background you know

00:28:49.341 --> 00:28:52.241
i've got some old british cars in my

00:28:52.241 --> 00:28:55.401
collection and you know is somebody gonna really

00:28:55.401 --> 00:28:58.741
care about a a humber super

00:28:58.741 --> 00:29:02.861
snipe you know which is a really obscure british

00:29:02.861 --> 00:29:05.661
car you know i nobody's gonna

00:29:05.661 --> 00:29:08.441
know what it is but somebody's always going to know what a book's like

00:29:08.441 --> 00:29:15.001
beetle is yeah good i i think that helps but but values have risen i think i

00:29:15.001 --> 00:29:20.201
i think the world saw a really crazy bubble just post-covid yeah i feel and

00:29:20.201 --> 00:29:25.921
that seems to have deflated a bit now values are down to what they were prior to covet i think.

00:29:27.081 --> 00:29:30.921
And you know it's and obviously with our world and all the crazy crap that's

00:29:30.921 --> 00:29:34.821
going on out there a lot of people are focused on other stuff so yeah i think

00:29:34.821 --> 00:29:38.641
the marker right now is a little soft i I think it's a great opportunity to

00:29:38.641 --> 00:29:42.541
buy because there's some deals that are out there and there's some cars that

00:29:42.541 --> 00:29:46.201
are coming to market that have been, you know, stashed away for a long time.

00:29:46.461 --> 00:29:51.161
And, you know, I, I see it as a, an incredible buying opportunity right now.

00:29:51.421 --> 00:29:56.701
Yeah. So a collector, a real enthusiast, you know, obviously somebody with a

00:29:56.701 --> 00:30:00.541
lot of buying experience. Are there any, any trends that you see coming?

00:30:00.681 --> 00:30:04.701
Like what's the next big thing for, for VW collecting in your opinion?

00:30:05.533 --> 00:30:10.793
Well, I mean, I'm starting to see it outside of the air-cooled market and see,

00:30:10.933 --> 00:30:15.793
you know, some of the early water-cooled stuff is really starting to ramp up

00:30:15.793 --> 00:30:19.873
as far as interest and values in those cars.

00:30:20.113 --> 00:30:25.093
You get up into the, you know, the 70s and 80s era of VWs, you know,

00:30:25.173 --> 00:30:30.393
try to find a good first-generation GTI or something, and already the prices

00:30:30.393 --> 00:30:32.373
on those are really ramping up.

00:30:32.973 --> 00:30:36.213
But i i see that there's a lot of room for that to expand

00:30:36.213 --> 00:30:39.753
it's they're not the cars that i'm into necessarily but

00:30:39.753 --> 00:30:42.713
i i think it's i i think

00:30:42.713 --> 00:30:46.013
that following that generational wave of

00:30:46.013 --> 00:30:48.693
of you know okay if you

00:30:48.693 --> 00:30:51.733
were if you graduated in 84 like i

00:30:51.733 --> 00:30:55.173
did well what was the car that you dreamed to have in well man

00:30:55.173 --> 00:30:58.033
i would have loved gti you know

00:30:58.033 --> 00:31:01.413
but i couldn't afford a new car there but and i'd

00:31:01.413 --> 00:31:04.473
love to have one now you know and so that

00:31:04.473 --> 00:31:08.553
i i think that that's a definite spot i think

00:31:08.553 --> 00:31:11.653
see what else i've always

00:31:11.653 --> 00:31:14.693
been kind of looking at karmagias thinking

00:31:14.693 --> 00:31:20.313
that they're about ready to take off and go insane and and they haven't really

00:31:20.313 --> 00:31:25.833
and maybe it'll never happen but i i always think that you know we're going

00:31:25.833 --> 00:31:32.093
to see some real early guias break a hundred grand at auction and And I haven't really seen that.

00:31:32.765 --> 00:31:41.285
I hope that happens. Now, I've got one, but it's not early. It's not 50s. It's actually a 71.

00:31:41.825 --> 00:31:48.085
Yeah. I found it in Pennsylvania on a female-owned, one owner,

00:31:48.185 --> 00:31:51.285
46,000 miles. Found it on Facebook, Marketplace.

00:31:51.605 --> 00:31:56.265
Went out and picked it up. It was dusty in the back of this dude's barn.

00:31:56.265 --> 00:31:58.005
It turned out it was his mother's car.

00:31:58.465 --> 00:32:00.665
And yeah, it was great.

00:32:01.945 --> 00:32:05.125
Very very respect respectable price on

00:32:05.125 --> 00:32:08.065
it meaning in my favor and i i put it

00:32:08.065 --> 00:32:11.605
on a u-haul trailer and brought it back home and it's sitting out front now

00:32:11.605 --> 00:32:15.885
it's a 71 though so it's not you know it's not the the low light or anything

00:32:15.885 --> 00:32:21.485
like that or 50s or even 60s it's got the the faux wood dash and the you know

00:32:21.485 --> 00:32:25.805
the the black you know topper that that cracks up in the sun and stuff but man

00:32:25.805 --> 00:32:27.825
And it's a beautiful car,

00:32:27.825 --> 00:32:30.565
and it drives like a dream. I mean, seriously.

00:32:31.525 --> 00:32:38.005
It's just so good. Yeah, great car. Yeah, great era of car of VW for a driver.

00:32:38.245 --> 00:32:43.385
You know, the late 60s, early 70s stuff in today's world, you can keep up with traffic.

00:32:43.685 --> 00:32:47.165
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good car. You're right. They're just great.

00:32:47.425 --> 00:32:51.785
And finding a car like you found, something that has low miles and good history,

00:32:52.125 --> 00:32:54.285
and, you know, that's the dream.

00:32:54.285 --> 00:32:59.065
I don't matter what year it is or what model, but you'll, you'll appreciate

00:32:59.065 --> 00:33:04.025
this when I, when I picked it up, but it had some paperwork that had come with it.

00:33:04.185 --> 00:33:08.605
And in the paperwork, it's over there in my, my little cabinet was the original

00:33:08.605 --> 00:33:13.585
invoice or receipt or work order with the options and the footrest and the,

00:33:13.585 --> 00:33:16.965
the couple extra things that, that his mom bought with it.

00:33:16.965 --> 00:33:22.545
But it was like 2,300 bucks or something with the few options and the AM FM radio.

00:33:22.825 --> 00:33:26.505
And yeah, it was, it's really cool. So I, my wife wanted one.

00:33:26.585 --> 00:33:29.325
She said, it's the only Volkswagen classic Volkswagen that I like.

00:33:29.585 --> 00:33:33.725
So I had to find her one. And then we had another problem. She didn't want to drive a stick.

00:33:34.245 --> 00:33:37.325
So as I'm doing my research and I'm looking through, I'm like, wait a minute.

00:33:38.065 --> 00:33:41.465
Carmen Ghia has a early seventies model with the auto stick.

00:33:41.465 --> 00:33:45.785
And I drove an auto stick in high school. So I know my wife will enjoy that.

00:33:45.785 --> 00:33:48.665
So I, dude, I found it. I, and I was so happy that I did.

00:33:49.357 --> 00:33:52.337
Yeah that's that's awesome you know great car definitely

00:33:52.337 --> 00:33:55.177
yeah thanks man so if somebody looking to get

00:33:55.177 --> 00:33:58.277
into into into you know vintage vw's right

00:33:58.277 --> 00:34:01.017
now you know there's still a solid investment you know

00:34:01.017 --> 00:34:03.997
i feel the the the days of the good deals

00:34:03.997 --> 00:34:07.097
aren't necessarily long gone based off what you're saying right

00:34:07.097 --> 00:34:10.837
there's probably be those days again well

00:34:10.837 --> 00:34:13.897
i i i mean those days are are every

00:34:13.897 --> 00:34:16.697
day you know there's bargains out there you can

00:34:16.697 --> 00:34:19.617
troll through facebook marketplace and see deals

00:34:19.617 --> 00:34:22.377
on stuff and and you just need to

00:34:22.377 --> 00:34:25.277
be willing to to get off your butt and go get them you

00:34:25.277 --> 00:34:29.237
gotta jump fast and grab the

00:34:29.237 --> 00:34:34.377
deals but yeah you know and you you don't always pull a fish into the boat when

00:34:34.377 --> 00:34:39.777
you go fishing and you don't always catch that car but the more you you chase

00:34:39.777 --> 00:34:43.537
it you know the more you're going to find and there are some great deals that

00:34:43.537 --> 00:34:48.977
are out there and there's some great opportunities to be the next caretakers of, of these cars.

00:34:49.177 --> 00:34:53.597
You just, you know, got to be at the right place at the right time and, and grab them.

00:34:53.977 --> 00:34:57.377
Yeah, I agree. There's, there's still some good stuff out there.

00:34:57.697 --> 00:35:02.397
I see stuff all the time that like, like you, I, I just wish it was an endless

00:35:02.397 --> 00:35:07.937
supply of, which I could go out back and pick a few thousand dollar bills off the money tree.

00:35:10.217 --> 00:35:13.237
And go and buy some of these cars because the more you

00:35:13.237 --> 00:35:16.657
investigate the more time you spend searching the

00:35:16.657 --> 00:35:19.637
more opportunities like just like you said the more opportunities you'll find

00:35:19.637 --> 00:35:22.837
and and then you know it's a it's a matter of you know

00:35:22.837 --> 00:35:27.997
the letdown of man can i make this work no no not this time so you just have

00:35:27.997 --> 00:35:32.217
to let them go but all good all good all right moving past that like electric

00:35:32.217 --> 00:35:36.117
conversions i want to get your your thought on these are you are you on the

00:35:36.117 --> 00:35:41.097
side of keep things original or are you into the electric conversions at all?

00:35:41.197 --> 00:35:44.217
Where do you stand on that debate in the VW community?

00:35:45.135 --> 00:35:50.175
I'm a big fan supporting people and doing whatever the hell they want to do.

00:35:50.315 --> 00:35:54.135
As long as they're not hurting other people, and they're having a good time,

00:35:54.255 --> 00:35:58.155
and they love their car, I'm all over it.

00:35:58.495 --> 00:36:04.715
Now, if someone were to take a really bitchin' all virgin, original preserved

00:36:04.715 --> 00:36:08.135
car and screw it up, well, then I see a little sadness in that.

00:36:08.135 --> 00:36:13.715
But, you know, the electric conversion thing, I've got a friend that bought

00:36:13.715 --> 00:36:18.735
an oval window from me years ago, and it was his daily driver for a bit.

00:36:19.295 --> 00:36:25.015
And a few years ago, he said, I'm having it converted to electric. And I went, really?

00:36:25.415 --> 00:36:29.275
Okay, fine. You know, go for it. And then he got it done. He said,

00:36:29.335 --> 00:36:30.675
Randy, you got to come drive this thing.

00:36:30.875 --> 00:36:36.475
And I went, okay, fine. And I went to his place, and I really kind of wanted to hate it.

00:36:36.475 --> 00:36:40.535
But, you know, it was like, not that I would have said anything to him or make

00:36:40.535 --> 00:36:46.055
him feel bad, but to me, it was something that I wouldn't have done necessarily to my car.

00:36:46.255 --> 00:36:51.075
But having a chance to drive it and to feel the way the electric motor works

00:36:51.075 --> 00:36:55.375
and just the way the whole system was done and to see how well the conversion

00:36:55.375 --> 00:37:02.335
was done and how it really didn't hack up this really nice little Ovalda bug, it was cool.

00:37:02.335 --> 00:37:06.795
And I left there going, man, this is pretty badass. Now, if it was,

00:37:06.955 --> 00:37:12.795
it's really expensive, you know, I think he spent 30 grand or more on doing this conversion.

00:37:12.875 --> 00:37:16.715
It was a lot to put into a car that's worth maybe 30 grand.

00:37:17.015 --> 00:37:21.615
But, you know, it was, I don't know, I thought it was pretty cool.

00:37:21.615 --> 00:37:25.875
And I think as time goes on and technology goes on and the stuff is more available

00:37:25.875 --> 00:37:31.455
and easier set up for enthusiasts to kind of plug and play.

00:37:32.514 --> 00:37:37.014
You know, what the hell, if it makes you want to drive your car more and get

00:37:37.014 --> 00:37:39.994
more enjoyment out of it, then do it.

00:37:40.354 --> 00:37:43.434
I want to drive one. I want to drive an electric one because I,

00:37:43.534 --> 00:37:48.694
I know that technology I've driven electric cars and the few that I've,

00:37:48.874 --> 00:37:51.574
you know, that I've driven, even the, the, the, the Tesla,

00:37:52.094 --> 00:37:55.934
I'm surprised at the torque, the low end torque and the, and just the,

00:37:55.934 --> 00:38:00.054
the handling because of the low center of gravity because of the weight of the batteries.

00:38:00.054 --> 00:38:04.554
I just, yeah, man, I've, I've, I've thought about, wow, that might be kind of

00:38:04.554 --> 00:38:06.074
cool, but I always like to ask that,

00:38:06.494 --> 00:38:09.294
especially to guys that are deep rooted like you, because, well,

00:38:09.514 --> 00:38:13.174
there's a debate and that debate is keep them natural, keep them,

00:38:13.274 --> 00:38:16.134
keep them air cooled or, you know, be cool.

00:38:16.274 --> 00:38:20.894
And, and if that's cool and, and enjoy the electric conversion, but all good, all good.

00:38:20.894 --> 00:38:23.814
Big live and let live kind of a guy

00:38:23.814 --> 00:38:27.174
if you want to take your car and paint

00:38:27.174 --> 00:38:29.834
it flat and and put it on a

00:38:29.834 --> 00:38:32.674
bronco chassis or something go for it man i mean if

00:38:32.674 --> 00:38:39.014
it makes you happy and it it increases your joy of having that car that's why

00:38:39.014 --> 00:38:44.514
these cars are here and for i think any of us to talk crap and tell people what

00:38:44.514 --> 00:38:51.234
they should do with their car i i think is is foolish you know just support the scene,

00:38:51.434 --> 00:38:54.494
support the people around you, and have fun.

00:38:55.114 --> 00:38:59.054
Yeah, man. And I can tell that's your heart too, because supporting the scene.

00:38:59.214 --> 00:39:02.274
Because you got back in touch with me, and you don't know me from Adam.

00:39:02.454 --> 00:39:05.134
So, man, again, I appreciate that so much.

00:39:05.334 --> 00:39:08.854
So, let's do some quick reaction type questions.

00:39:10.074 --> 00:39:14.854
What's the most overrated air-cooled VW in your opinion? Overrated.

00:39:16.174 --> 00:39:17.874
Overrated air-cooled VW.

00:39:19.425 --> 00:39:31.045
Gosh i mean i it's kind of hard to say but i think split screen buses are are really cool,

00:39:31.665 --> 00:39:38.705
but they also kind of suck to live with because they're slow and and a little

00:39:38.705 --> 00:39:44.425
dangerous and you know i i love them i don't mind going slow i'm used to it

00:39:44.425 --> 00:39:46.945
it's like but they're beautiful but,

00:39:47.665 --> 00:39:50.485
i see a lot of people that have gotten into

00:39:50.485 --> 00:39:53.465
the scene because they want to have one because it's the thing to have

00:39:53.465 --> 00:39:56.485
and they're not necessarily old vw people

00:39:56.485 --> 00:39:59.365
but they want to have the micro bus because that's the thing to have

00:39:59.365 --> 00:40:05.025
and then they get it and they realize that it's not comfortable it's slow it's

00:40:05.025 --> 00:40:10.305
loud the heat doesn't work you're literally the front bumper is right in front

00:40:10.305 --> 00:40:15.165
of your face and you know that sort of thing and so i i think that there's been

00:40:15.165 --> 00:40:19.345
a lot of people that have followed that trend that have then gotten those things and went,

00:40:19.505 --> 00:40:23.145
well, wait a second, this isn't, this isn't fun, you know.

00:40:24.125 --> 00:40:29.605
But you're not the only person that's, that said that, that, uh, well, that's good.

00:40:29.865 --> 00:40:33.865
The split window bus, you know, and most of the time it's for the same reasons,

00:40:34.025 --> 00:40:38.745
safety comfort, you know, the way it drives and handles, et cetera.

00:40:39.125 --> 00:40:42.565
Hell yeah, they're cool. You know, and, and I can even get in line there and

00:40:42.565 --> 00:40:46.345
say, you know, I'd love to have one, you know, a rare one, you know,

00:40:46.645 --> 00:40:48.485
looking good, fully restored, et cetera.

00:40:48.825 --> 00:40:53.365
But yeah, I, that's not the first time I've heard the split window bust.

00:40:53.485 --> 00:40:55.605
So I can certainly understand that.

00:40:55.785 --> 00:41:00.105
All right. Next one up dream road trip in a VW classic air. Cool.

00:41:00.185 --> 00:41:01.385
Where are you going? Who are you taking?

00:41:02.905 --> 00:41:08.185
I'd love to do a cross country trip. Doesn't have to be from any particular

00:41:08.185 --> 00:41:10.505
destination to any other destination.

00:41:10.505 --> 00:41:18.245
I think it would just be fun to traverse our country in an old bug in today's world.

00:41:18.705 --> 00:41:23.625
And, and as far as who I'd take with me, I'd probably take my dog and have it

00:41:23.625 --> 00:41:28.045
just be me away from it all.

00:41:28.185 --> 00:41:33.365
Shut the phone off and just drive, you know, what a feeling.

00:41:33.545 --> 00:41:38.325
I know that feet, it don't matter who you are, what your accomplishments are in life.

00:41:38.785 --> 00:41:43.145
That feeling right there is one that no matter who you are, you can relate to.

00:41:43.865 --> 00:41:49.725
Yeah, that's awesome, man. Yeah. No, that freedom part of it and a little bit

00:41:49.725 --> 00:41:51.405
of personal adventure part.

00:41:52.157 --> 00:41:58.117
You know, I, I've not done a lot of real long distance running in air cool VWs,

00:41:58.197 --> 00:42:00.397
driven them a lot of miles,

00:42:00.577 --> 00:42:05.157
but, but I think I would like to do a big, like cross country run and,

00:42:05.297 --> 00:42:08.697
and some good old bug or bus or whatever. We'll see.

00:42:09.297 --> 00:42:12.437
Yeah, sweet. That'd be awesome. I would too.

00:42:12.657 --> 00:42:18.517
And I'm probably going to do maybe early seventies Bay window in,

00:42:18.577 --> 00:42:21.657
in my mind, you know, if that's, if, if that's what plays out.

00:42:22.157 --> 00:42:26.797
So best VW show out there, no debate, bar none.

00:42:27.077 --> 00:42:29.997
I know you've probably seen a lot of them and been to a lot of them.

00:42:30.057 --> 00:42:31.137
What's the best one you've been to?

00:42:31.637 --> 00:42:39.697
Well, the coolest one in my eyes and in my memory is the Hesha-Soldendorf vintage

00:42:39.697 --> 00:42:45.397
VW show in Germany that they do every four years, I think it is.

00:42:46.357 --> 00:42:50.397
They kind of take over this whole little German town.

00:42:51.137 --> 00:42:53.977
And even the shop owners and stuff get into it

00:42:53.977 --> 00:42:57.377
so like the window displays are vw related and

00:42:57.377 --> 00:43:00.537
you know the the church allows a

00:43:00.537 --> 00:43:03.137
display of a volkswagen in there you know

00:43:03.137 --> 00:43:06.077
in the middle of the church and and all of the earliest

00:43:06.077 --> 00:43:09.277
vws from all around europe show up at this event and

00:43:09.277 --> 00:43:12.217
it's on cobblestone streets and it's

00:43:12.217 --> 00:43:15.317
just the whole thing is a postcard and a time travel

00:43:15.317 --> 00:43:18.477
kind of a thing and that that

00:43:18.477 --> 00:43:24.177
event kind of far and above everything else i think is is the coolest one or

00:43:24.177 --> 00:43:29.697
provided the most amazing memories for me to flash back to as i think about

00:43:29.697 --> 00:43:35.737
it just really really cool scene awesome what's your favorite vw of all time

00:43:35.737 --> 00:43:37.297
if you could have just one,

00:43:38.150 --> 00:43:41.510
And, and, and that's it. That's all you can have. Which, which one's it going to be?

00:43:42.830 --> 00:43:49.030
If I could have that Rosensteel Roadster back, or maybe my, I,

00:43:49.050 --> 00:43:52.150
I had a crew cab truck, a 62 crew cab.

00:43:52.370 --> 00:43:56.910
That was like the first VW that I ever got into a magazine, you know,

00:43:56.950 --> 00:43:57.950
way back in the eighties.

00:43:58.470 --> 00:44:03.310
And, and even though I, it was, it was not the best bus in the world.

00:44:03.310 --> 00:44:07.010
And certainly by my standards today the

00:44:07.010 --> 00:44:10.890
work that i did on it then was crap but but

00:44:10.890 --> 00:44:13.690
that thing that vehicle opened up this whole

00:44:13.690 --> 00:44:17.230
world to me and started me on this path of being able

00:44:17.230 --> 00:44:20.330
to do what i love and provide for my family and

00:44:20.330 --> 00:44:23.470
travel the world write for magazines and

00:44:23.470 --> 00:44:26.930
do all sorts of stuff everything started with that truck so

00:44:26.930 --> 00:44:29.710
if that thing popped back up you know that that

00:44:29.710 --> 00:44:33.690
would if you wanted to grab a new relecto okay okay yeah

00:44:33.690 --> 00:44:36.470
man started it all and that's good i appreciate you

00:44:36.470 --> 00:44:39.470
sharing those those memories so what's next

00:44:39.470 --> 00:44:42.350
for you any any cool projects in the pipeline or anything

00:44:42.350 --> 00:44:45.090
like that i mean i never know

00:44:45.090 --> 00:44:47.790
what's around the corner i've got projects that are

00:44:47.790 --> 00:44:51.470
out in the garage right now that i'm working on this

00:44:51.470 --> 00:44:56.910
weekend i'm i'm putting the original engine back into this 356 porsche that

00:44:56.910 --> 00:45:03.130
belonged to my father i i i've owned that car now for over 30 years but when

00:45:03.130 --> 00:45:08.750
i got it it didn't run right the motor was really tired and so i pulled the engine out and.

00:45:09.390 --> 00:45:13.910
And just couldn't afford to rebuild it you know and i kept running vw motors

00:45:13.910 --> 00:45:19.770
in it because you could do that and they were cheap but i finally ponied up

00:45:19.770 --> 00:45:23.810
to rebuild you know the numbers matching an original engine for that 356.

00:45:24.150 --> 00:45:29.530
And so it's going in there on Saturday. And so I'm looking forward to that.

00:45:30.633 --> 00:45:35.713
And then other VW projects, I've actually got another car that this guy,

00:45:35.813 --> 00:45:39.173
Dave Rosensteel, had done the metal work on.

00:45:39.513 --> 00:45:44.153
It's kind of a coupe version of that Roadster that I had.

00:45:44.293 --> 00:45:49.033
And that one's waiting in the wings for me to dive into and build it into something cool.

00:45:49.913 --> 00:45:55.293
Awesome. Sounds like a dream come true. So where can people find you?

00:45:55.393 --> 00:45:58.673
Where can they check out your work? how do people you

00:45:58.673 --> 00:46:01.353
know get in touch with you if if they want to see what

00:46:01.353 --> 00:46:05.233
you're up to well obviously oldbug.com is

00:46:05.233 --> 00:46:08.653
that's the the site that that

00:46:08.653 --> 00:46:11.713
i run as as a business and you

00:46:11.713 --> 00:46:14.473
know people post their cars for sale on that and i'm

00:46:14.473 --> 00:46:17.213
easily reachable through that you know

00:46:17.213 --> 00:46:20.613
all the email addresses and phone numbers on there all point to

00:46:20.613 --> 00:46:23.973
me so i'm easy to find there on social

00:46:23.973 --> 00:46:27.193
media you know old bug has a good facebook page you

00:46:27.193 --> 00:46:30.853
can find me there carcheology on youtube

00:46:30.853 --> 00:46:36.593
you can check me out there there's also a carcheology page on facebook as well

00:46:36.593 --> 00:46:42.613
instagram i'm kind of an instagram fiend right now i use it far more than i

00:46:42.613 --> 00:46:48.213
probably should but but you can find me on Instagram, it's bugginbox.

00:46:48.233 --> 00:46:51.353
That's B-U-G-N-B-O-X.

00:46:51.913 --> 00:46:57.213
And I think I've got like 38,000 people or something that follow my madness

00:46:57.213 --> 00:46:59.913
on Instagram, which is kind of fun to see.

00:47:00.453 --> 00:47:05.913
Okay, so I guess finally, any last words for the Dub Life Diaries listeners,

00:47:06.113 --> 00:47:11.213
all the VW lovers out there, you know, final words of wisdom or anything from you?

00:47:12.293 --> 00:47:18.453
Oh, God, I don't know. I think The main thing that I'm seeing right now that

00:47:18.453 --> 00:47:25.533
I'd like to see people embrace is to really share your cars with the younger

00:47:25.533 --> 00:47:27.253
generation as much as you can.

00:47:27.253 --> 00:47:28.693
I know that sounds like an old guy

00:47:28.693 --> 00:47:32.673
thing to say as I sit here with my gray beard and look like an old guy.

00:47:32.673 --> 00:47:38.533
But, you know, the way to make sure that the scene continues is to make sure

00:47:38.533 --> 00:47:43.933
there's people that want these cars and love the scene that's about it.

00:47:44.193 --> 00:47:49.833
And so getting younger kids into it, you know, go to some car show that's not

00:47:49.833 --> 00:47:55.633
a VW show and show up, you know, park your bug in amongst all these guys for

00:47:55.633 --> 00:47:57.753
their tuner Hondas and things like that.

00:47:57.753 --> 00:48:02.213
And show them what's cool and, you know, let them sit behind the wheel,

00:48:02.313 --> 00:48:04.633
take them for a spin, let them drive it, whatever.

00:48:05.073 --> 00:48:09.053
You know, you got to get some hands-on experience with the younger generation

00:48:09.053 --> 00:48:13.833
with these cars so they can see how fun they are and meet the people that are

00:48:13.833 --> 00:48:16.753
involved with it and how cool the scene is.

00:48:16.913 --> 00:48:21.273
And that will help it continue on, you know, long after we're gone.

00:48:22.019 --> 00:48:27.219
That's awesome. Those were some awesome parting words. It's been a pleasure, my friend. Thank you.

00:48:27.459 --> 00:48:30.379
Yeah, no, that's been great. I love your enthusiasm.

00:48:30.779 --> 00:48:36.719
I love the questions that you have are good. And I like what you're doing,

00:48:36.819 --> 00:48:39.239
man. I think this is going to grow into something cool.

00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:44.999
Thank you, man. Thank you very much for reaching out. I do have one final question.

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And look, I'm goosebumps when I bring this one up. What's Jay Leno like, man?

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Jay's pretty awesome. So the, the quick Leno stories was I had a car for sale

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for a customer of mine and I had it posted on eBay and it was a weird little

00:49:03.919 --> 00:49:08.759
French car called a Pinard PL 17, goofy, goofy little car.

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Anyway, I get this phone call on the car and voice on the other end goes, Hey, my name is Jay.

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I'm from Burbank. I'm interested in this car. And I'm like, say

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that again you know and sure enough

00:49:21.899 --> 00:49:24.779
it was jay and he's all i don't like the auction

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thing but i'm really interested in the car just tell me how much

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and you know will you sell it to me so i

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contacted the owner i said hey i've got this guy that's interested you

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know what's your happy price and i gave jay a

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call back and and he said fine let's do it and the

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car was in texas and was

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being shipped to him and i told him hey when that car gets there i'd love to

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come up and see it and meet you and he's like yeah no problem so the car shows

00:49:53.379 --> 00:50:02.379
up and you know we connected and and he invited me out to to take a tour of the of the garage and.

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And he was the most gracious, most almost Rain Man level, knowledgeable deer

00:50:10.910 --> 00:50:12.610
head dude I think I've ever met.

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And, you know, he gave, I went up there with my wife and my son and a friend of mine.

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And he just gave us a personal tour of the whole place. If there was a car or

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a motorcycle that we had interest in, you know, he would fire it up.

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He'd tell us all the history of everything.

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And, and it was just freaking amazing. He was just such a positive dude to meet

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and just so kind and so knowledgeable that from that point on,

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if there was ever an opportunity to help him in any way, I'm all in.

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So, you know, I met some of the people there that worked for him and,

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you know, if they needed a VW for filming or something, they would ask me if I knew where one was.

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And so over the years i've i've helped

00:50:59.390 --> 00:51:02.890
them you know gather cars for the

00:51:02.890 --> 00:51:05.750
filming for the shows and stuff i met

00:51:05.750 --> 00:51:08.850
this one young guy up in portland that was like

00:51:08.850 --> 00:51:11.610
this little leno in my head as far as the way that

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he had this knowledge of all this stuff and he's

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showing me his collection and i'm going you you need

00:51:17.790 --> 00:51:21.170
to be with jay i want to see you two get together because you

00:51:21.170 --> 00:51:24.510
guys will be bouncing off the walls together having a good time and so

00:51:24.510 --> 00:51:28.110
i i kind of pushed to see that happen or to see if i could somehow make that

00:51:28.110 --> 00:51:32.150
connection and and that happened and then i went down when that happened and

00:51:32.150 --> 00:51:37.850
watched that and just kind of giggled like yeah this was really cool but but

00:51:37.850 --> 00:51:41.910
it's been great i mean it's it's turned into a thing where i've always i've

00:51:41.910 --> 00:51:43.930
never asked them for anything i've.

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You know, it's just, if, if I get a call from Jay or one of his people,

00:51:49.181 --> 00:51:54.681
I'll drop everything and handle it just because I'm such a supporter of what they've got going on.

00:51:54.841 --> 00:51:58.881
I think he's the patron saint of the whole collector car world.

00:51:59.381 --> 00:52:04.461
You know, it's like, he's, he's the Pope and the garage is the Vatican.

00:52:04.761 --> 00:52:06.681
Right. And you go there and see this place.

00:52:07.061 --> 00:52:11.281
I had that. That's why I had to ask. I wasn't going to let you get away without,

00:52:11.281 --> 00:52:12.941
without asking about Jay Leno,

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just because, you know, anybody that's a, a car enthusiast at any point in their

00:52:18.581 --> 00:52:24.401
life is going to intersect with knowing that he's a mastermind in, in the car world.

00:52:24.681 --> 00:52:28.661
And then when you, like you said, when you hear him and see him and see the

00:52:28.661 --> 00:52:32.161
passion and the enthusiasm talking about cars and explaining them and,

00:52:32.281 --> 00:52:35.281
you know, do you can just tell, I mean, it's just, it's just,

00:52:35.401 --> 00:52:36.941
but so yeah, I just, you know,

00:52:37.181 --> 00:52:39.281
I had to, I had to ask, I had to ask what he was looking at.

00:52:39.301 --> 00:52:41.501
Like, but cool, man. Thanks again, brother.

00:52:42.181 --> 00:52:46.301
Yeah, no, thank you. That was, that was great. I look forward to watching that

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or listening to the podcast and, and definitely we'll boot it out there and

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share it with as many people as possible.

00:52:52.821 --> 00:52:57.401
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