Episode 2- Rolling Legacy : The Truly Nolen VW Beetle Mouse Car and Family Legacy

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Dub Life Diaries, the podcast where passion meets the open road.

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I'm Joe Person, your host and also a lifelong dubber.

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So today we have a very exciting guest to welcome.

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Scarlett Nolan was promoted to the president of Truly Nolan of America in March of 2019.

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Scarlett's worked for the company since 2012 and has played in multiple roles.

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Most recently, Scarlett was the district manager for the Growth District,

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which from what I read was a district of new service offices whose territories

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were Florida, Texas, New Mexico,

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Arizona, and California, all

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which, by the way, have a huge Volkswagen community, all of those areas.

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Prior to joining the company, Scarlett graduated summa cum laude from the University

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of South Carolina with a bachelor's degree in experimental psychology, which is super cool.

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And then we're not done yet. We're not done yet. Then, or should I say also,

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summa cum laude from the University of Central Florida, which is now the master's

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degree in marriage and family therapy.

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Dang, man. That is like super cool to hear that that's connected to the rest of what you do.

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So ladies and gentlemen, not only do we have an amazingly talented powerhouse

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on the show, but we also have the president of a very successful company,

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which by the way, that uses a Volkswagen Beetle in its brand message with one

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of your core values for your company being to have fun.

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The VW community knows all about having fun. So let's welcome Scarlett to the show.

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Thank you so much. I'm so glad to be here. Yes, thank you for taking the time

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out of your busy schedule to do this.

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I have a little bit of a cool story of how this came together.

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I've got a friend that's in a B&I chapter, which I think James, is it James Suphan?

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Did I say his name properly? Okay. I believe he's a part of that one.

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And I reached out to them, which I thought was maybe going to be to the local St. Pete area.

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I remember growing up in this area, the yellow beetle that was always out front

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of that location in St. Pete.

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So when I started kind of connecting the dots, I didn't realize,

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one, that the company had grown to the size that it is.

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And two, that there was the Red Ant bus as well, which we're obviously going

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to jump into. So before we get into some questions on V-dubs,

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I want to know a little bit about who Scarlett the person is.

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So tell me a little bit about Scarlett the person. Who is she?

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Well, first of all, I'm so glad to be here. And this is such a great topic.

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And talking about the history of our cars, it's kind of a couple cars,

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but a long history in our company and really has been at the heart of our company.

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But me as a person, you know, I'm just, I'm a Florida person through and through.

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And I love going to the beach. And, you know, I, my father had truly had such a passion for cars.

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So it was just kind of growing up just around.

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His passion for cars kind of just spilled out to the rest of the family.

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And I'm really grateful because when I was learning to drive,

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my dad was one that he liked to, he was bold in many regards.

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So rules, he wasn't like a firm rule follower, maybe.

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No car seats back then, huh? Yeah, he let us drive some cars and he really introduced

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me to some really fun cars.

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I remember when I was maybe in fifth grade, I was pretty young,

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fifth grade maybe. and picked me up in an H1.

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I mean, and this thing was decked out military style, like this really, really cool Hummer.

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And I felt very cool getting picked up in this absolute tank of a car.

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And so that was pretty exciting. And, you know,

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his love for cars has really just, I think it's shaped a lot of just who we

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are as a company and having fun with cars and playing with cars and really having

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them as kind of just this toy that we also happen to work in.

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Awesome. Okay. So I mentioned a second ago in your intro, but I noticed that

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number 12 in your core values is have fun. So what does Scarlett do for fun?

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You know, I, so two things that I do mostly for fun.

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I, I, one, most people know, I spend a lot of time at the beach,

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but something that people probably don't know about me is I enjoy painting.

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Oh, cool. Yeah. Do you have any public work?

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Any, any work? Any, any, any pictures? No, no. All for, you know,

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all for, all for myself, probably for fun.

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I've commissioned a handful of pieces, but, but, and I go through phases,

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through landscape phases. and figure phases, and I kind of go through different

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painting phases depending on, I don't know, where the wind takes me.

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But yeah, that's kind of one of my side passions and side hobbies.

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Awesome. What kind of car do you drive?

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I currently drive a Lexus SUV, and I'm a mom.

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So that is an SUV is great for sports gear.

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I've got some hockey players in my family so anything that'll

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fit a nice hockey bag which is

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pretty substantial for in case some florida

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listeners don't know hockey bags are pretty big i want

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to hear more about the kids though you said you said you're a mom so can do

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you mind sharing any any of that with me yeah so i've got some boys i've got

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two boys and uh and they're in third and fourth grade and they both play ice

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hockey and have a good time doing it and then i've got another one another boy on the way.

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So, house full of boys. Okay. Okay. Man, I have five kids.

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Oh, no kidding. Yep. My oldest is my 19-year-old girl, and she basically runs the roost.

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And then I've got three boys in a row.

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Then we finally figured out what was happening and how all these multi-kids

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were happening. How you're getting all these kids.

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Right. So then we fixed that. And then about 10 years later,

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12 years later, we actually adopted a child.

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So that's been like the bigger blessing in my life is having that opportunity

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to see him grow, you know, when the cards were stacked against him.

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But that age that you mentioned, that third and fourth grade,

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oh, look, I get goosebumps.

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It's a fun age. It's a fun age. It goes so fast.

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I just celebrated my third 16-year-old now who just got a car over the weekend.

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And yeah, it's like, dude, you were just this little baby I was holding in my

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hands. And, you know, now you're well on your way. Okay.

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So before we talk about V-Dubs, which is going to be right after this next,

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you know, kind of small segment, but just kind of bring us up to speed real quick.

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How does one become not just the president of Truly Nolan, but to go from psychology

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and marriage and family counseling to being the president of a very,

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very highly successful pest control company?

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It just sounds like it's not, but it also actually sounds like it works really

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well. So it's, you know, it's a journey.

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Yeah. My background and degree was as a therapist, which I love doing.

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I had to, it was incredibly fulfilling. Yeah.

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I had every intention of that being my lifelong career, but I just,

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I was about to open a private practice and I tabled it.

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And to learn a little bit about my dad's company that he had built,

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just joined the company and kind of had a very student mindset.

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Let me just learn. Let me go there to learn.

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Not any specific ambitions. Just let me learn something every day.

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Let me start the day, you know, and end the day with a little bit more knowledge.

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And I just did that every day. And I, that is still my philosophy till today

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is start the day and end the day with a little bit more, just learn whether it's reading a blog,

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learning it from another person, which is the bulk of my learning is,

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is just learning from all of our team members.

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But I come in as a student and try to just be very observational and curious

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about how can we do things better.

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And that has sort of just been take me one, you know, foot in front of the other.

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But I started with the company and I worked in operations.

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That's primarily my background. So I, being a pest control company,

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we take care of rodents and roaches and we do insulation.

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And so I took time to learn all of those different aspects and lawns and you name it.

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So I was in the service world for a bit, taking care

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of primarily resident on the residential side although truly nolan

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does residential commercial worked my way up to

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being a service manager and then a

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branch manager and then that took me to being a district manager which was probably

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the just the absolute highlight of my career being a district manager because

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you could really see i you know you started to see into multiple markets and

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compare notes and it got a little bit more dynamic as far as strategy and in

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the business side of things.

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So worked really hard as a district manager, had some great wins and we grew

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that district and then worked my way up to being on the executive team.

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And then in 2020, that was my first full year of being the president of the company.

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And what a year, what a year to transition. The learning curve was real.

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So- I'm going to smack my COVID the next year. Yeah, you know,

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like a few months in, you know, on one hand, what a learning curve as you're.

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Transitioning into a new role but the whole entire world was sort of on this

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even playing field because like everybody i was watching the news and so it

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was a really interesting time pest control was deemed an essential service which

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from a business standpoint of view saved our butts,

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because we i don't know that we'd be here talking if we weren't deemed an essential

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service but also from a health standpoint of view for the world and what i know

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about insects and rodents Very glad that we were deemed an essential service.

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Very, very, feel very lucky that we were.

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And the last, you know, four or five years, it's been great.

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It's, you know, a lot of turns and twists navigating, you know,

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this world, but really happy to be here.

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Well, you look like and feel like just from listening to you that you're at home in this position.

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So, you know, you can always kind of see that in somebody.

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So I value that, appreciate that. And it really seems like really your background

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mixed with your family, you know, mixed with who you are as a person just seems

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like it's a, it's a perfect recipe. So congratulations.

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Thank you. Yeah. My degree, yeah. My psychology degree background,

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although it may seem a little disconnected, honestly was

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the best degree to get because at the end of the day pest control we're

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we do pest control but we're really in the people business

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and a lot of what it means to be in on a leadership team is about working with

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teams and systems and groups and that's what family therapy is is groups and

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teams and systems of people with strengths and weaknesses yeah it actually translates

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Yeah. Allowed your strengths.

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That's so, so, so awesome.

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Okay. So let's talk about VWs because this is a VW podcast.

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So excited to hear about this because I didn't quite, to be really honest,

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I didn't know until I started researching and then it got even better because

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I knew the VW community would respond even better to this.

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But share with me the story behind the creation of the Red Ant VW bus.

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And for the listeners, this is a mid-60s split, what they know as a split bus,

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which is the two front windows.

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And it's a single cab from what I saw on the website. So share with me just

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a little bit about how this thing came about.

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Absolutely. So this has been an evolution over decades. I mean,

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it really has been a lifelong passion, generational passion.

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And I would say the seed may have started with my grandfather.

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Truly Wheatfield Nolan, in South Florida.

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He participated in a lot of parades and...

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You know, dressed up our vehicles as different things.

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There's been different versions of our signature.

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Today, what people know is our yellow mouse car, but there's been different

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versions of it over time. So there was a Batmobile.

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I don't have proof of that. I don't have a picture, but I've heard there's like

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a legend of the Batmobile.

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There was a rabbit at some point and the red ants, so the red ant,

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we had a fleet of red ants.

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I always thought it looked like a firetruck.

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That's when I saw it, I was like, oh, it's like a firetruck.

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To me, that was like through my lens, I suppose.

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But my dad was all about, you know, you got to stand out.

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And the unique shape and the history of VBW is just so rich.

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And speaking to the community, this community certainly knows that it's just,

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it has a really fun, great history and humor and, and boldness.

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And that was just everything that my dad was that, that bold out of the box

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thinker, definitely not, you know, mainstream. He liked to do things a little differently.

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So it wasn't just him, though. There was a lot of team members that truly know

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and technicians, salespeople that contributed ideas.

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And it just there was different generations that evolved over time.

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So the red fire ant was really great because it was a bold, it was a nice, bold color.

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And my dad read that yellow cars had the least amount of car accidents at the time.

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I don't know what the statistics are now. I'm not, I don't claim to be an insurance

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agent by any stretch, but at the time, yellow cars, they're most visible and

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the least amount of car accidents.

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So safety being obviously a priority for us, especially when you're in the fleet world.

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And marketing world, yellow became then a natural choice that said,

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OK, let's do a bright, bold, yellow Volkswagen.

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Love the shape. The shape is kind of like a bug.

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It's got the name going for it, but there's something kind of interesting about it.

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Slap some ears on it, slap a tail on it, and we turned it into a mouse.

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And they've had different faces, like little eyes and things we've played with.

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But the ears. I even remember in location in St.

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Pete for a number of years, never really put two and two together,

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never thought it was a national thing.

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I was always just thinking that it's just that company up the road,

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which again is even cooler to start to investigate this just a little bit,

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obviously, you know, getting in touch with you guys.

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And then once you said, yes, I wanted to do my research on you and your background

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to see all of these other vehicles and parades and just all the history.

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I'm like, dude, this is really awesome.

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So, again, I really appreciate hearing about this. So really no specific moment

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or inspiration. You said it's really kind of the company that kind of came together.

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Yeah, it's been an iterative process. So it's like one person said one thing

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and we had lots of versions. So there was an original version where the ears

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were enormous and they didn't. Today they fold back with the wind.

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Right. The ears were enormous.

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And and this was wind resistors, big sails.

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Yeah, they were sails. Oh, they were sails. All right. And this was back when

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air conditioning was not in cars and you hung, you know, it's Florida.

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So you hang your elbow out the window to get a little AC and an ear fell off, believe it or not.

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And sadly hit somebody. The person was totally fine, but there was an insurance claim.

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And the insurance company was like up in New York where we don't have that mouse

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presence. And so the insurance claims something wrong.

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Ear fell off vw hit

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elbow like people are like and

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then my dad said well let me send you a photo it's hard to explain so

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definitely an evolutionary process make shrinking the ears letting them fold

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back and really playing playing with the design and the lines of the vw as well

00:17:27.568 --> 00:17:33.028
yeah which by the way you know part of what this this culture of this community

00:17:33.028 --> 00:17:36.168
is is you really celebrating those same things.

00:17:36.468 --> 00:17:42.448
You know, we all are tickled by the shapes and the designs and the history of these cars as well.

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Any memorable stories from the past from you, maybe even growing up, about the Red Ant?

00:17:48.708 --> 00:17:53.368
And I even saw on the website, like you said, the color change. I saw the white one too.

00:17:53.768 --> 00:17:57.388
But anything in your memory from growing up?

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You know, I got to say that growing up in my hometown,

00:18:01.828 --> 00:18:05.028
in naples there was a game that

00:18:05.028 --> 00:18:07.968
we played so everybody of course knows you know

00:18:07.968 --> 00:18:11.328
punch buggy yeah yeah but there were right so classic

00:18:11.328 --> 00:18:15.188
like by the way vws are the only car

00:18:15.188 --> 00:18:19.048
that has this game like no other car there's no other car which is kind of cool

00:18:19.048 --> 00:18:23.128
which is pretty cool yeah absolutely yeah it's like this is a part of our culture

00:18:23.128 --> 00:18:30.508
but truly nolan has a has another element and we did pinch buggy so we took

00:18:30.508 --> 00:18:34.928
punch buggy but if it was a truly nolan bw you did pinch buggy.

00:18:35.708 --> 00:18:41.708
And oh i kid you not so we played that in naples the town i grew up with and

00:18:41.708 --> 00:18:46.388
lots of kids knew that game naples was very very small that still is small but

00:18:46.388 --> 00:18:49.168
it's it's grown quite a bit in 30 years but.

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About a month ago, someone goes, oh, I just saw a truly known car, Pinch Buggy.

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And I was blown away that this like game that I don't know even know.

00:19:00.937 --> 00:19:04.157
I don't know if my sister started. I don't even know where it really came from.

00:19:04.257 --> 00:19:05.317
I don't know if we started it.

00:19:06.057 --> 00:19:09.937
But this game, this children's, you know, Pinch Buggy, Pinch Buggy,

00:19:10.037 --> 00:19:12.357
and it had floated up. I live in Orlando.

00:19:12.597 --> 00:19:14.897
So it came up to Orlando somewhere.

00:19:15.197 --> 00:19:18.897
And the person said, oh, I've known that game since I was a child.

00:19:20.237 --> 00:19:24.797
They grew up in Orlando. So that I would say from like when I think about my

00:19:24.797 --> 00:19:28.437
childhood, that's how I kind of relate to it.

00:19:28.737 --> 00:19:30.877
Oh, thank you for sharing that. That's awesome.

00:19:31.557 --> 00:19:35.477
Back to real quick before we move past the Red Ant bus.

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Did the bus play any type of advertising strategies for you guys really before the mouse car came?

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Because it looked like it might have been Red Ant first.

00:19:46.157 --> 00:19:50.537
Oh, absolutely. So it was all about the advertising.

00:19:50.797 --> 00:19:54.257
My dad was a brilliant and I master advertiser.

00:19:54.437 --> 00:20:00.857
He was always looking for a way to spend the least amount of money,

00:20:00.977 --> 00:20:03.437
but have the biggest impact. And he was creative.

00:20:03.777 --> 00:20:07.017
You know, you don't get this iconic car because you're not creative.

00:20:07.097 --> 00:20:08.657
He was a super creative person.

00:20:09.417 --> 00:20:12.977
And so the red ant, you want to let people know what he did.

00:20:13.417 --> 00:20:17.657
Yeah. He wanted to stand out. and you know when you're driving it down the street

00:20:17.657 --> 00:20:24.777
or on a highway it should stand out so are the the the red ants and now the

00:20:24.777 --> 00:20:27.037
yellow mouse cars is rolling billboard,

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And so it's amazing to me.

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If he was that good with marketing and he knew right away putting,

00:20:34.187 --> 00:20:37.027
you know, truly Nolan on the side of that thing, putting some,

00:20:37.187 --> 00:20:40.607
he knew right away that it was going to be powerful for branding.

00:20:41.187 --> 00:20:46.867
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And before that, though, he once when he was first starting

00:20:46.867 --> 00:20:51.547
off his business, he broke down like his family car broke down and it was worth

00:20:51.547 --> 00:20:53.227
nothing. The car was worth nothing.

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It was worth it was it would cost him more to tow the car than the car was worth at the time.

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I mean, that's so he just he rolled it to a gas station, painted his name on

00:21:03.567 --> 00:21:08.627
it, said truly Nolan Pest Control, put his number on it, give me a call.

00:21:08.847 --> 00:21:14.987
And he got more leads off of that broken down car than any Yellow Pages ad or

00:21:14.987 --> 00:21:17.647
billboard that they paid for. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

00:21:18.347 --> 00:21:22.707
So it kind of birthed this idea of we've got rolling billboards and what a better,

00:21:22.927 --> 00:21:28.867
I mean, VW is the best car to advertise in because it's iconic and it stands out. Yeah, yeah.

00:21:29.067 --> 00:21:32.427
So now we can fast forward to Mouse Car.

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So was there after Red Ant and a few other ideas that were there?

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This was also still mid-60s when the first Mouse Car came out, right? I think I read 66.

00:21:44.647 --> 00:21:50.127
But what inspired the thought of now, instead of using the single cab bus,

00:21:50.307 --> 00:21:52.447
why are we now going to the Beetle?

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Was it the shape? Like, you know, the Beatles just is just an iconic shape.

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And my dad loved the shape. He thought it was cool. When I remember him talking

00:22:00.747 --> 00:22:03.067
about it, he's like he he saw it come out.

00:22:03.347 --> 00:22:10.207
He thought it was cool. And the shape just made sense for him and said, we got to have that.

00:22:11.033 --> 00:22:16.353
Was there any skepticism in the beginning from, you know, maybe somebody that

00:22:16.353 --> 00:22:19.653
might have been comfortable with the buses or where where you guys were?

00:22:19.873 --> 00:22:23.653
Any skepticism of saying, hey, now we're going to do a beetle.

00:22:23.653 --> 00:22:26.433
It's going to be yellow and we're going to turn it into a mouse.

00:22:27.813 --> 00:22:32.653
That's a great question. Oh, I'm sure there was a little bit for my time on on a skepticism.

00:22:32.653 --> 00:22:38.933
But you know i think that being in pest control you've got to have a good like

00:22:38.933 --> 00:22:45.073
sense of humor almost because and so if you're willing to drive around in a

00:22:45.073 --> 00:22:49.273
car that looks like a mouse you know or like if you're willing to it's just

00:22:49.273 --> 00:22:51.133
kind of a part of the gig a part of the culture.

00:22:51.813 --> 00:22:54.773
There's definitely people that come to truly nolan and

00:22:54.773 --> 00:22:58.033
say wait a second am i driving around in a vw

00:22:58.033 --> 00:23:00.753
which i drove around for a long time as a

00:23:00.753 --> 00:23:03.713
manager and when i was in sales and within our company but

00:23:03.713 --> 00:23:06.593
you know but it's like hey

00:23:06.593 --> 00:23:09.393
join either join the cult or like

00:23:09.393 --> 00:23:12.413
you gotta just you

00:23:12.413 --> 00:23:18.973
gotta have a you have a good sense of humor and and have fun with it so decades

00:23:18.973 --> 00:23:24.633
later now mouse car still at the top of your website obviously recognized now

00:23:24.633 --> 00:23:29.113
more of a almost a worldwide symbol than just the car up the road,

00:23:29.313 --> 00:23:31.093
which is what I thought I was getting myself into.

00:23:31.353 --> 00:23:34.353
What does that legacy mean to you and to your family?

00:23:34.913 --> 00:23:40.233
It's, you know, it's really humbling. The mouse car and different iterations

00:23:40.233 --> 00:23:47.073
of it from a mouse limo where we cut a VW in half, split it and elongate it

00:23:47.073 --> 00:23:48.473
to create a couple limos.

00:23:49.033 --> 00:23:56.813
We've got a mouse golf cart. We've got some mouse mopeds running around the world over in Europe.

00:23:57.373 --> 00:24:01.273
But that mouse car, we're in over 60 countries.

00:24:01.673 --> 00:24:05.713
And it's really, it's your franchising, and it's really, really, really.

00:24:07.180 --> 00:24:13.060
It just makes me full of pride to have this symbol that's carried on through a few decades now.

00:24:13.500 --> 00:24:18.820
And now it's global. And our footprint is pretty wide.

00:24:19.080 --> 00:24:23.700
So if you're in a country, the chances of you, if you happen to be traveling

00:24:23.700 --> 00:24:26.060
overseas, you might just see a mouse car.

00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:30.960
Traveling in South America, you might just see a mouse car.

00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:37.260
And that's a really cool feeling to have that. And it just, you know,

00:24:37.360 --> 00:24:39.800
it really creates that community.

00:24:40.080 --> 00:24:44.680
And for those that love cars or that those aren't really a part of the car community,

00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:48.780
it still often brings people, you know, a smile to their face.

00:24:48.980 --> 00:24:54.980
You can be any age from any culture, any religion, any background.

00:24:55.600 --> 00:25:01.220
And we get the same exact reaction of, hey, look at that car.

00:25:01.380 --> 00:25:04.540
Look at that unusual car. and it does

00:25:04.540 --> 00:25:07.840
all start with that vw that shape that iconic shape

00:25:07.840 --> 00:25:11.300
so i noticed on the website or

00:25:11.300 --> 00:25:14.080
just maybe digging around it may have been linkedin or somewhere but i

00:25:14.080 --> 00:25:17.060
saw you sitting on your desk and in the background

00:25:17.060 --> 00:25:20.300
behind you is the past present future and it

00:25:20.300 --> 00:25:23.800
looks like the old you know the past beetle the

00:25:23.800 --> 00:25:26.820
current maybe early 2000s and then

00:25:26.820 --> 00:25:33.120
over to the right i thought i saw the back end of a 911 you know you you may

00:25:33.120 --> 00:25:41.780
have all right so you may have not the future that's we don't have sales guys

00:25:41.780 --> 00:25:46.200
riding around in 911s not quite not quite you know.

00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:53.760
It's an aspirational future so always looking in future of course you know maybe when you

00:25:53.980 --> 00:26:02.020
the car world i love a porsche so who doesn't right right i've never met someone who doesn't.

00:26:03.140 --> 00:26:06.380
Yeah so that's definitely that aspirational future

00:26:06.380 --> 00:26:09.400
of you know where will it take us we don't officially have any

00:26:09.400 --> 00:26:12.200
porsches just for in case you're looking for we don't

00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:15.460
have any real ones only concepts and having

00:26:15.460 --> 00:26:18.700
fun with it but we definitely have different different versions

00:26:18.700 --> 00:26:21.420
of the mouse car and you know

00:26:21.420 --> 00:26:25.520
as vw has evolved and and you

00:26:25.520 --> 00:26:28.780
know different models were created and it's we're not

00:26:28.780 --> 00:26:31.620
in production anymore and then it's it's been tricky to

00:26:31.620 --> 00:26:37.920
just to find even in the vw world as as you probably know find people that can

00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:40.940
replace parts the maintenance of it gets a little trickier it gets a little

00:26:40.940 --> 00:26:47.720
specified so we've evolved yeah yes spark yeah we it's become a A bit more specialized,

00:26:48.180 --> 00:26:49.700
especially over the past, what is it?

00:26:50.373 --> 00:26:53.393
Five years, just it's changed a bit.

00:26:54.093 --> 00:26:58.473
So, you know, I, it's partly at a business necessity.

00:26:58.793 --> 00:27:03.333
We've evolved a bit from the VW, but we come back to it. And,

00:27:03.573 --> 00:27:06.693
you know, that's to me, our symbol.

00:27:06.993 --> 00:27:11.853
Yes. The symbol is part of the history, you know, and I feel that when I went

00:27:11.853 --> 00:27:14.533
to the website, you know, I'm like, wow, you know, there's still,

00:27:14.633 --> 00:27:19.613
it's a new beetle, but there's still rocking the beetle as that symbol. So yes.

00:27:19.873 --> 00:27:24.593
As far as designing any of the newer concepts, did you or your siblings,

00:27:25.133 --> 00:27:28.953
which by the way, I also saw there was a whole bunch of siblings. Yeah.

00:27:30.013 --> 00:27:35.273
Did you guys ever get all the brainstorming of the designing of the newer concepts as they change?

00:27:35.533 --> 00:27:40.253
Yeah. So I love, so everybody kind of has their different specialties.

00:27:40.433 --> 00:27:44.453
I like contributing to the aesthetics of it, the marketing side of things.

00:27:44.993 --> 00:27:51.353
So as our newest iteration is a little bit of a cleaner look, cleaner logo look.

00:27:51.653 --> 00:27:57.653
And if you, you know, you can spot a new one if you see a little red ant on

00:27:57.653 --> 00:28:00.013
it. So there's a little red ant.

00:28:00.373 --> 00:28:05.993
It's like a little Easter egg, a little ode to the past. Everybody look for that.

00:28:06.213 --> 00:28:11.193
And be on the lookout. There's not a ton of them out yet, but be on the lookout

00:28:11.193 --> 00:28:12.913
for a little red ant on a mouse corner. And if.

00:28:13.554 --> 00:28:18.974
You see one, that is one of our newer designs, and that is my personal design, my baby.

00:28:19.554 --> 00:28:22.994
But I also want to give a shout out to my brother, really. My big brother,

00:28:23.134 --> 00:28:24.934
really, engineer background.

00:28:25.274 --> 00:28:29.314
He has designed really the innards of our cab.

00:28:29.474 --> 00:28:33.414
He is that brain that can think about the best efficiency.

00:28:33.734 --> 00:28:38.974
And so he's helped us work out the inside, the technical, being in the industry.

00:28:39.474 --> 00:28:42.634
He's also had a hand in the tail and ears.

00:28:42.634 --> 00:28:46.254
Okay so engineering we

00:28:46.254 --> 00:28:49.314
gotta find a way for these ears not to fall off yeah no

00:28:49.314 --> 00:28:52.274
kidding no kidding and when you're about to drill

00:28:52.274 --> 00:28:55.174
through the hood of a car in your

00:28:55.174 --> 00:28:57.994
car yeah yeah you don't want to have to do it twice

00:28:57.994 --> 00:29:01.054
so you kind of you hold your breath and then it's quite

00:29:01.054 --> 00:29:04.414
painful to drill through the top of the car to

00:29:04.414 --> 00:29:07.414
install ears and then affixing a tail too

00:29:07.414 --> 00:29:10.634
so he's been helping and contributing with engineering

00:29:10.634 --> 00:29:13.414
new ways to fix that we've also

00:29:13.414 --> 00:29:16.954
partnered with a company that has

00:29:16.954 --> 00:29:20.594
been just fantastic it's a company called disruptor here

00:29:20.594 --> 00:29:25.474
in florida and they've been fantastic to work with helping us also think about

00:29:25.474 --> 00:29:30.894
how do we affix the ears what are some efficiencies and designing our cabs for

00:29:30.894 --> 00:29:36.214
our service vehicles yeah a little bit bigger than a vw but But so we've we've

00:29:36.214 --> 00:29:38.154
definitely it's a team effort.

00:29:38.494 --> 00:29:40.354
And I like what I do with my family

00:29:40.354 --> 00:29:45.554
is I show them a bunch of ideas on my siblings and nephews and nieces.

00:29:45.734 --> 00:29:48.474
And I try to get feedback from everybody said, OK, you know,

00:29:48.574 --> 00:29:52.574
what if we put, you know, a stripe here, a logo here? What do you guys think?

00:29:52.794 --> 00:29:56.894
And and try to get everyone's everyone's input. Awesome.

00:29:57.334 --> 00:30:03.074
So beyond the mouse car, beyond the Red Ant bus, in your dad's life,

00:30:03.354 --> 00:30:08.954
did VW play any type of an influence on his personal life?

00:30:09.054 --> 00:30:11.694
Did he drive one that wasn't the company's?

00:30:12.231 --> 00:30:14.951
Oh yes yeah okay oh yeah

00:30:14.951 --> 00:30:18.031
so yes in fact you

00:30:18.031 --> 00:30:21.211
know my my dad passed away in 2017 but my

00:30:21.211 --> 00:30:24.211
mother drives a vw actually she drives a vw today

00:30:24.211 --> 00:30:26.871
she drives a vw convertible it's her

00:30:26.871 --> 00:30:29.611
favorite car i think she's ever had because she's had

00:30:29.611 --> 00:30:32.671
it the longest and she refers to

00:30:32.671 --> 00:30:35.491
it as her fun car she you know i don't she has she's

00:30:35.491 --> 00:30:39.111
like this is my fun car in her fun era so yeah

00:30:39.111 --> 00:30:43.191
so he drove a lot of times if it was a vw my dad

00:30:43.191 --> 00:30:46.551
didn't want to miss an opportunity to brands i

00:30:46.551 --> 00:30:49.531
mean he liked putting his he like put he was a marketing man

00:30:49.531 --> 00:30:52.291
so he really didn't want to miss that opportunity even on

00:30:52.291 --> 00:30:56.111
the personal vehicles huh yeah he so a

00:30:56.111 --> 00:30:59.031
little a little you know ear logo

00:30:59.031 --> 00:31:02.351
or a sticker here and there you know you might you

00:31:02.351 --> 00:31:05.311
would find a little one somewhere on it but

00:31:05.311 --> 00:31:08.331
you know vw's i think it really

00:31:08.331 --> 00:31:11.371
represented for him personally and it's

00:31:11.371 --> 00:31:14.391
always hard to you know speak for somebody but i think

00:31:14.391 --> 00:31:17.951
for him personally it really represented that

00:31:17.951 --> 00:31:20.911
entrepreneurial spirit because it drove

00:31:20.911 --> 00:31:27.671
sales that our sales people are were in the are in the vws and for him i think

00:31:27.671 --> 00:31:33.631
it always came back to that entrepreneurial new frontier american dream just

00:31:33.631 --> 00:31:38.271
just image so are Are there plans to.

00:31:38.331 --> 00:31:42.211
I know in today's world with, you know.

00:31:42.311 --> 00:31:46.411
A technician really kind of needing like a service van type vehicle,

00:31:46.411 --> 00:31:51.351
is there plans to keep using VWs as part of the company's branding?

00:31:52.251 --> 00:31:56.911
Yes. You know, I do have my eye. Maybe VW, maybe someone from the VW world wants

00:31:56.911 --> 00:32:01.011
to give me a shout out because I have my eye on that new bus. Oh, yes.

00:32:01.671 --> 00:32:05.751
How cool. And the ID was. Yeah.

00:32:06.272 --> 00:32:09.672
I think it's really, I think it's a cool, fun car.

00:32:09.912 --> 00:32:15.072
I love the modern feel of it, but I like that it's clearly a nod to the Pat.

00:32:15.272 --> 00:32:18.932
Like, it's just a nice blend of future and past.

00:32:19.352 --> 00:32:22.432
And so, you know, that's something we've been talking about.

00:32:22.572 --> 00:32:25.672
I'm waiting to get my hand. I don't have my hands on one quite yet.

00:32:26.972 --> 00:32:30.552
But once they get a little more into production, I'm sure.

00:32:30.552 --> 00:32:35.272
I mean, headquarters needs to hear this and get in touch with Scarlett.

00:32:35.272 --> 00:32:37.932
Because absolutely how cool that'd be

00:32:37.932 --> 00:32:40.732
to to have the next mouse car but it'd be

00:32:40.732 --> 00:32:43.812
out of the new id buzz how cool that would

00:32:43.812 --> 00:32:50.232
just be so fantastic i mean between our our history you know our long our parallel

00:32:50.232 --> 00:32:55.592
history that would be just so fantastic and i saw so many other other cars and

00:32:55.592 --> 00:33:01.332
ways that you guys have celebrated cars as a company and as a brand and it it

00:33:01.332 --> 00:33:02.712
just really you know, it hit home.

00:33:02.852 --> 00:33:06.052
It made me feel like I'm in line with what I'm supposed to be doing.

00:33:06.292 --> 00:33:11.192
If this is the kind of stuff that I want to do, you know, for my podcast,

00:33:11.392 --> 00:33:15.492
how awesome, you know, is it to turn out to have you on? So again, thank you.

00:33:15.612 --> 00:33:20.292
So what do you hope that listeners can take away from learning about you guys

00:33:20.292 --> 00:33:25.112
using these unique vehicles and really the role that they played in Truly Nolan's story?

00:33:25.692 --> 00:33:28.972
You know, you don't often link cars and pest control,

00:33:28.972 --> 00:33:32.492
but my dad had a incredible

00:33:32.492 --> 00:33:35.232
passion for vehicles he loved he was

00:33:35.232 --> 00:33:38.132
just such a fan and so he was able to take that

00:33:38.132 --> 00:33:41.132
passion for vehicles infuse it in his business and

00:33:41.132 --> 00:33:46.152
create he took his passion and just it really echoed echoed for generations

00:33:46.152 --> 00:33:52.372
and created a global brand we do have we do a car show in tucson arizona in

00:33:52.372 --> 00:33:58.772
in november so if any listeners are in the tucson area in november we We've

00:33:58.772 --> 00:34:00.472
done one for a few years now.

00:34:00.832 --> 00:34:04.772
Please be sure to check it out. We, of course, have some VWs,

00:34:04.852 --> 00:34:10.652
some old VWs, and we do have a bunch of antiques that people bring and share.

00:34:10.792 --> 00:34:15.412
We have a collection of antiques at Truly Nolan as well that we use for branding

00:34:15.412 --> 00:34:20.192
and just a part of my dad's collection that he started. And we really invite

00:34:20.192 --> 00:34:25.692
just the rest of the car community and family to kind of enjoy the history.

00:34:26.554 --> 00:34:30.914
The listeners are going to know that feeling, you know, we all do car shows

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and we all set up and break down and, but, but awesome. Okay.

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So before we wrap this thing up, and again, I do appreciate your time so much.

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I have a question that I have to ask that all of the V-Dub enthusiasts are going to want to know.

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What is your favorite VW? oh

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my gosh my favorite

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vw i'm a classic i like a classic just

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original vw you know

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of course have appreciation for the modern design that but i'm

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i'm a classic lady through and

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through so i'm gonna go with an original off off

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the belt vw which which model

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like a beetle like a classic beetle i have it

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in my head yeah okay classic beetle so the

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original the original mouse car the original yep

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yep perfect iconic shape and you know certainly a beautiful design still celebrated

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today not just for its shape but also as your brother would appreciate the engineering

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the engineering of those cars are fantastic and they they still are you know

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maintained and run to this day,

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even with parts that are, you know, from the sixties, the fifties,

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the forties. So super, super cool.

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My man, Toby, anything that you want to, that you want to say?

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I've had your nice, beautiful face this whole time, just smiling at the background.

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How about you? What's your favorite VW car?

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Mine is also a Volkswagen Beetle, and I do have one kind of funny story,

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if I may. Oh, absolutely.

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Yeah, we had a red Volkswagen Beetle growing up, and we also had a Volkswagen

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Rabbit. We were a Volkswagen family.

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That's awesome. I was about eight years old, and my father used to work at the

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post office in Fort Lauderdale.

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So he was coming home one day, and he got to probably about a mile or two from the house.

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And his engine unbeknownst to him caught on fire because as you know it's in

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the back that's right and the fuel chamber right so his neighbor who worked

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with him at the post office,

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is pulls up next to him and is trying to explain to my dad one thing i should

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tell you my dad's our neighbor was deaf.

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So he was trying really hard to explain to my dad the seriousness of what was going on.

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As you might imagine, it took a little bit to clue in what had happened.

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Long story short, my dad finally figured it out, got out of the car.

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And because he was my dad, and Scarlett would appreciate this because she knows

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what kind of sports fan I am, he went back into the car to get his transistor

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radio so it didn't burn up with the car.

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Because he wanted to listen to his work program when he got home apparently

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but cool story man thank you for sharing that

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thank you for sharing and that's a wrap for

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this episode of dub life diaries thanks for

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sitting shotgun and diving into these incredible stories of the people and doves

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that drive their dreams until next time keep the engine humming and the wheels

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turning and always follow the road that inspires you this is joe person signing

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off i'll catch you on the next ride.

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Music.